Ryzen 5 2400G, Ryzen 3 2200G APUs reviewed: Vega meets Zen

Let’s just lay our cards down at once. AMD’s Ryzen 3 2200G and Ryzen 5 2400G APUs are everything budget gamers have been praying for: surprisingly decent gaming performance at a shockingly low price.

In years past, such a statement would be met by skepticism and dismissive “whatever” animated GIFs. But AMD actually over-delivered on its Ryzen CPUs last year, so talks of combining those same Zen cores with the latest and greatest Radeon Vega graphics cores has cash-strapped gamers in a tizzy of excitement.

And it turns out the excitement is warranted. Compared to a similarly equipped Intel-based system running a Core i3, the lower-end Ryzen 3 2200G is 142 percent faster in 3DMark Firestrike, 154 percent faster in 3DMark Time Spy, and 203 percent faster in Rainbow Six Siege. Those are just a few of the highlights from our game performance testing, which you can see if you jump to our gaming tests.

In practical terms, AMD’s new budget wonder chips should be able to produce a reasonable 60 fps at 720p in many games, and some will be playable at 1080p, too. So if you’ve been avoiding building a gaming PC because of sky-high GPU prices, these new AMD APUs provide some intriguing options—at least on the budget end.

Now we’ll dig into the Ryzen APU specs and architecture before we return to our performance results.

ryzen 3 2200g 3 — For real: The $99 quad-core Ryzen 3 2200G offers graphics performance competitive with $99 graphics cards.

Ryzen 3 2200G and Ryzen 5 2400G specs

There are two Ryzen APU parts being released Monday. The Ryzen 3 2200G ($99 on Amazon) features four Zen cores without symmetrical multi-threading (SMT), which is AMD’s version of Intel’s Hyper-Threading. The cores have a base clock of 3.5GHz with a boost clock of 3.7GHz.

For graphics, it features eight Vega compute units (CUs) inside. Yup, the same Vega cores used in the company’s impossible-to-obtain Radeon Vega cards (reviewed here).

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AMD Ryzen 5 2400G

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One step up is the Ryzen 5 2400G ($169 on Amazon). It still nets you a quad-core chip, but with SMT switched on for a total of eight threads of computing power. AMD also increases the base clock to 3.6GHz and the boost clock to 3.9GHz. For graphics, you get about a third more CUs, with 11 Vega units inside.

Both are AM4-based and should work in most AM4 socket motherboards that have display outputs and the latest BIOS available. Unlike Intel, which locks its lower-end chips, AMD has left them unlocked for those who want to explore overclocking.

[ Further reading: AMD Ryzen motherboards explained: The crucial differences in every AM4 chipset ]

Ryzen APU vs. Ryzen CPU

Although the actual Zen cores are the same, the Ryzen APUs differ from Ryzen CPUs in a couple of key ways. In the chart above, three things should jump out: less cache, half the GPU PCI lanes, and the use of a single, unified CCX in the APU, rather than the dual-CCX design in the current CPU.

All Ryzens are modular and built around the basic four-core CCX unit. An eight-core Ryzen 7, for example, features two CCX units. On the six-core Ryzen 5 CPU, AMD disables a core on each CCX and links them together. On the four-core Ryzen 5 CPU, two cores are disabled on each CCX.

This CCX link has a real cost in latency (which tech website PCper.com thoroughly explores here.) With its new APU, AMD said it needed to save space and make thermal room for the overhead of the Vega cores, so it went with a single four-core CCX. This eliminates the latency issue, but also lowers total cache, as each of those CCX units has a dedicated cache.

AMD said the practical impact in its own testing was minimal: Some games pick up a little gain from lowering the latency, while others benefit slightly from the increased cache size. To help make up for the cache decrease, AMD said, it buffs the clock speeds a bit.

ryzen apu vs ryzen cpu — There are some key differences between AMD’s Ryzen APUs and its Ryzen CPUs.

AMD didn’t get into why it cut the PCIe lanes, but we’d guess it’s due to the mobile roots of the APU. These APUs were designed to scale up from laptops to desktops and you just don’t need all of those lanes in laptops. Many tests over the years have shown PCIe lanes typically don’t impact GPU performance.

ryzen 3 2200g 1 — We used an MSI B350 Pro AC motherboard and 16GB of G.Skill DDR4/3200 RAM.

AMD penny-pinches on the paste

One last divergence between the CPUs and the APUs is a shift from a metallic solder thermal interface material (TIM) used in Ryzen CPUs to a paste-type material in the Ryzen APUs. AMD admits it did it to save bucks.

When the internet learned Intel used a paste TIM in its Skylake-X chips, nerds went apoplectic at the thought of lowly paste in a performance CPU. With the Ryzen APUs, I anticipate less rage. Even though the move to paste will lower the APU’s overclocking potential, these are budget parts, not $2,000 CPUs.

How we tested

For our performance test, we built on an AMD-supplied MSI B350 Pro AC motherboard and 16GB of G.Skill Flare DDR4/3200 RAM, approved and supplied by AMD. For storage we opted to use a 240GB Kingston HyperX Savage SATA SSD rather than an M.2 NVMe device, which would add to the cost and likely isn’t the first choice of someone buying a $99 APU. All testing used the bundled AMD cooler.

For performance context, we decided to use an Intel Core i3-7100 chip. It’s a dual-core 7th-generation Kaby Lake CPU with Hyper-Threading, and costs $115 on Amazon. It doesn’t have TurboBoost, but its base clock is a hefty and constant 3.9GHz. For graphics, it features Intel HD 630, which is used on everything from Core i7 to Core i3. We sourced this CPU from Amazon and used the stock cooler for our tests, along with a Gigabyte GA-H270M-DS3H MicroATX board.

If you’re thinking we intentionally tried to make Intel look bad by not using the similiarly priced 8th gen Core i3-8100, we can explain our real reason in two words: motherboard costs.

With Kaby Lake, you can get an LGA1151 board for as cheap as $50 using H-series chipsets. So far, Intel has not released a budget chipset for its 8th-gen CPUs, which means the cheapest Z370-board we could find was $120.

The graphics comparison should mostly be the same, as Intel’s UHD 630 is essentially the same as its HD 630. While the Core i3-8100 is a quad-core, its lack of Hyper-Threading and overall lower clock speed (there’s no Turbo Boost) would probably put the two a lot closer in performance than you’d expect.

Why we tested at DDR/2400

One last thing we want to note: We used 16GB of DDR4 on both platforms, both rated for DDR4/3200. However, the Core i3 would not run higher than DDR/2400 on our H-series board. That led us to ponder whether it was fair to test the AMD using higher-clocked RAM than the Intel board.

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Ultimately we did test the AMD APUs at the higher speed as well as DDR/2400, but for our CPU section, we decided to present results at DDR4/2400 clock speeds. In our gaming section, because memory clock speeds are critical, we show multiple speeds. Because Ryzen does benefit from higher clock speeds, you can basically add about 5 to 6 percent to the performance of both APUs at higher clock speeds.

Lastly, while we had no issues running the Ryzen 3 2200G at DDR4/3200, the Ryzen 5 2400G was finicky with reboots occurring when using the preset XMP 3200 profiles. We suspect this is mostly a tuning issue that will eventually be worked out.

spectre corei3 — We tested both Intel and AMD with all of the available Spectre and Meltdown patches in place.

Meltdown and Spectre performance

All our tests were completed with fresh installs of Windows 10 Fall Creators Update with the latest patches installed. And yes, that means we ran our tests with patches for the Meltdown and Spectre exploits in place. On the AMD platform, that means just OS updates. On the Intel platform, that meant a microcode update as well. Although some vendors have yanked their Spectre microcode fixes, Gigabyte still offered it for the motherboard we used, so we installed it and verified it with GRC’s InSpectre.

3D rendering performance

Our first test is the venerable Cinebench R15.038 test. Based on Maxon’s professional rendering engine, it’s pretty much a pure CPU test and scales well with thread and core count.

The result is no surprise: The quad-core $99 Ryzen 3 2200G easily outstrips the $116 Core i3 by 42 percent. Going from the Ryzen 3 2200G to the Ryzen 5 2400G, we see about a 35-percent bump by adding SMT support.

ryzen apu cinebench r15 nt — The quad-cores chips easily rule over the dual-core Intel in the multi-threaded Cinebench R15 test.

Not everything is multi-threaded, though, so we also run Cinebench R15 using a single compute thread. Here’s one test where the Core i3 ekes out a win.

ryzen apu cinebench r15 1t — In Cinebench R15’s single-threaded test, you can see the slight clock-speed and IPC advantage that Intel’s Core i3 has. Higher-clocked RAM helps the Ryzens, but if the RAM is the same, Intel is ahead.

Should you be surprised? Not really. Intel’s advantage in IPC (instructions per clock) efficiency is real. When combined with its full-time 3.9GHz clock speed, it’s a fantastic chip for single-threaded tasks. In fact, for uses outside of gaming, it’s a fine CPU.

Encoding performance

Our next test uses the free and popular HandBrake encoder to convert a 1080p high-bit-rate file using the Android Tablet preset. HandBrake, like most video editing and encoding applications, loves CPU threads, and the Ryzen APUs walk away from the dual-core Core i3. We suspect the Core i3-8100 would be very competitive here with the Ryzen 3 2200G, but again—it’s another $70 out of your pocket to run that Coffee Lake CPU.

ryzen apu handbrake encode — If you do encoding, you’ll want the higher threads such as in the Ryzen APUs

Compression performance

Our next test uses the free 7-Zip utility and its built-in performance benchmark. The test is a CPU test and doesn’t look at the disk I/O as a factor. AMD again leads the way, with the dual-core Core i3 landing where we expect.

Ryzen APU gaming performance

Now we know AMD gives you more cores or more threads than Intel for the money, but Intel’s cores are also generally better. Let’s see how that plays out in games.

3DMark Sky Diver is fairly lightweight—basically like playing a typical eSports game—and therefore a useful tool for measuring, say, integrated graphics. Rather than use the overall score, which factors in CPU performance, we’re drilling down into the graphics subscore. The score you see for the HD 630 should be familiar, as it’s what most IGP-based Intel laptops have coughed up for the last year or two. With the Ryzen 3 2200G and its Vega 8, you’re looking at more than a 133 percent increase in performance compared to Intel’s Core i3. The Ryzen 5 2400G takes that to 178 percent. Let’s say that again, but slowly: 133 percent and 178 percent.

ryzen apu specs — Detailed specs of the graphics cores in the new Ryzen APUs with Vega graphics. For comparison, a Radeon RX 580 offers 6.1TFLOPS of performance.

The thing is, on desktop chips, it really doesn’t get any better for Intel. Its Iris Plus lineup of graphics with EDRAM isn’t available in a socket. And mind you, this isn’t even accounting for the speed advantage of using higher-clocked RAM in Ryzen.

ryzen apu 3dmark sky diver graphics — The lightweight Sky Diver test shows the limitations of Intel’s HD graphics over the Vega cores in the Ryzen APUs.

Ryzen APU performance in 3DMark FireStrike

Let’s step up to something a little harder: 3DMark Fire Strike. It’s obvious Intel’s HD 630 isn’t up to the task, so we pulled numbers from a Ryzen 5 1600 system with a Radeon RX 550 2GB card in it. This Polaris-based GPU can be found everywhere from $110 to $150. The tests we selected are mostly GPU bound, so the obvious increase in core count on the Ryzen 5 1600 should have minimal impact.

I’m also going to rope in performance results for the Ryzen APUs with faster RAM. As a reminder, I used DDR4/2933 scores for our Ryzen 5 2400G, because it wasn’t quite stable at DDR4/3200 with the G.Skill modules AMD provided.

ryzen apu 3dmark fire strike graphics — While the Radeon RX 550 leads the way, it’s hard to say that difference is worth $110 to $150.

The results speak for themselves. The Radeon RX 550 clearly has a lead, but those APUs come close. It’s really hard to justify a $110 to $150 premium for that difference. Putting that money into a larger SSD or more RAM—or socking it away until you have enough for an RX 570—makes a lot more sense.

Ryzen APU performance in 3DMark Time Spy

Our last 3DMark test for now is Time Spy. It’s a test built completely to test DirectX 12 gaming performance. Interestingly, the lead the Radeon RX 550 had in the DX11 Fire Strike test evaporates, and surprise, the Ryzen 5 2400G is equal to it when running higher-clocked memory.

The Ryzen 3 2200G also represents well and for the money, it’s cooking along nicely—especially when compared to Intel HD 630 graphics.

ryzen apu 3dmark time spy graphics — In the DirectX 12-focused Time Spy test, the Ryzen 5 2400G pulls dead even with a $110-$150 GPU!

Ryzen APU performance in Rainbow Six Siege

Now let’s see how the Ryzen APU handles real games. Our first test is the circa-2015 Tom Clancy Rainbow Six Siege. We tested it at multiple resolutions and game quality settings, but they’re pretty much all impressive. We see the Ryzen APUs actually pulling dead-even with Radeon RX 550—and then surpass it when paired with higher-clocked RAM.

The Ryzen APUs almost have enough grit to handle Rainbow Six Siege at 1920×1080. The Ryzen 5 2400G pushes 51fps, and the Ryzen 3 2200G, 40fps.

The Intel HD630 graphics? Let’s just stop talking about it, okay? At a certain point, it just becomes cruel and inhumane.

ryzen apu rainbow six 12x7 ultra — It’s not a mistake: We saw higher performance out of integrated graphics than a GPU.

Ryzen APU performance in Rise of the Tomb Raider

Even though it was also released in 2015, Rise of the Tomb Raider is a far harsher graphics load. Rainbow Six Siege is playable at 1920×1080. RoTR isn’t.

Overall, we saw decent performance from the APUs, especially when paired with faster system RAM, but they’re still really “only” 720p-medium-capable. At the same time, even the Radeon RX 550 was only 5fps faster than the Ryzen 5 2400G.

The takeaway here is that if you’re expecting to get away with 1920×1080 gaming all the time, you’re going to be disappointed in some heavier titles.

ryzen apu rise of the tomb raider 12x7 aa off dx11 medium — It may be from 2015, but *Rise of the Tomb Raider* is a lot for budget parts to chew on.

Can the Ryzen APU run Crysis?

By now, you probably want to make a wisecrack: “Can it run Crysis?”

This statement refers to how the 2007-vintage game brought even the most powerful and expensive gaming rigs to their knees, begging for mercy. More than a decade later it still represents the most ultimate bad-ass game ever (at least until everyone learns to whine that whatever game they didn’t like was “poorly optimized.”)

Well, guess what? The new Ryzen APUs can run Crysis. Using the ancient single-player demo, we ran the island GPU demo file and recorded the average fps of each completion (it doesn’t seem to want to cough up a final score anymore).

To give you a feel for how far we’ve come, we also dug up a performance report that Ryan Shrout at PCPer.com recorded in 2007 running the Crysis demo on a GeForce GTX 8800 GTX. Shrout’s score was generated at a slightly higher resolution of 1650×1200, but it’s clear the the Ryzen APU is faster in Crysis.

Granted, there is a world of difference in operating system, drivers, and hardware, but the top-of-the-line $650 GPU was simply hobbled by Crysis. Even worse? That Intel HD 630 really isn’t that far behind the GeForce 8800 GTX. IGPs have come a long way.

ryzen apu crysis 16x10 very high — Yes, it can run *Crysis*. In fact, it can run it better than a $650 GeForce 8800 GTX card too. Of course, that card is over a decade old, but Ryzen is *integrated graphics*.

How much does memory matter to a Ryzen APU?

If you’ve been paying close attention to our graphics results, you’ve noticed that faster RAM helps. A lot. Unlike a GPU that has its own pool of very fast RAM nearby, the IGP uses the RAM in the PC itself. To see how much of an impact various clock speeds of RAM matter with the Ryzen APU, we recorded performance gains from 2,133MHz to 3,200MHz RAM on the Ryzen 3 2200G. We also recorded how much of a hit you take by running single-channel mode vs. dual-channel.

We used 3DMark’s Fire Strike Graphics test, which is isolated to graphics performance.

ryzen apu memory matters — Memory matters with any IGP and especially with Ryzen APUs.

The results show how every notch up in memory speed takes you up in performance. Going from DDR4/2400 to DDR4/3200 nets you about 9.5 percent more performance. Is it worth it? That very much depends on how much you’re paying for the higher-speed RAM.

On the day we wrote this, we could find 8GB of Corsair Vengeance DDR4/2133 for $102. The cost for 8GB of Corsair Vengeance DDR4/3200 ran $115. That means you’d be paying about 13 percent more for RAM for about a 9.5-percent increase in performance. We’d probably say it’s worth it, especially if you can get the price a little closer. The same day, we also found the same DDR4/3200 modules on sale for $109, which meant paying about 6 percent more for about 9.5 percent more performance.

One thing we can certainly say is, don’t cheap out and buy a single module. As you can see from our results, doing so would kneecap your graphics performance.

ryzen apu many igps — Proof: AMD’s new Ryzen 3 and Ryzen 5 with Vega graphics are simply the fastest graphics ever introduced in a socketed processor.

Conclusion

We’ve tested plenty of CPUs with integrated graphics, but with all of them, we’ve had to issue more disclaimers than a pharmaceutical ad. AMD’s new Ryzen APUs are simply the first processors with graphics to get everything right.

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AMD Ryzen 3 2200G

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With the new Ryzen APUs and their Vega cores you’re finally getting decent graphics performance with top-shelf x86 cores at a price that isn’t a punch line. Frankly, it’s amazing timing for AMD to come out with a chip that can help quench budget gamers’ thirst when there’s a drought of GPUs.

We’ve read comments that people think the Ryzen APUs will “save PC gaming.” While we think that’s going too far, we have to admit, at least there’s finally a decent option for budget gamers.